Day 5: Chapters 1-5 (January 15, 2010)

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Expertise, Interpretation & Exhibits: Day 5

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Professor David B. Cruz

Day 5 begins with initial procedural wrangling about documents and witnesses due to the Prop 8 proponents’ efforts to keep secret their discussions about their messaging in their campaign to pass Prop 8. Trial then recommences in earnest when plaintiffs’ attorney Matthew McGill calls Dr. Michael Lamb, head of the Department of Social and Developmental Psychology at the University of Cambridge in England and former long-time head of the section on social and emotional development at the National Institute of Child/ Health and Human Development in Washington. For nearly 40 years he has been researching the factors that affect children's development and adjustment, during which time he has published hundreds of peer reviewed articles and amassed numerous other distinctions and honors.

Dr. Lamb is offered, without objection by the defendants, as an expert in the field of developmental psychology of children, including the developmental psychology of children raised by gay and lesbian parents. Based on the research in the field, his testimony supports his expert opinions that a substantial body of evidence documents that children raised by gay and lesbian parents are just as likely to be well adjusted as children raised by heterosexual parents; this testimony presumably will ultimately be used by the plaintiffs to rebut the Prop 8 proponents’ arguments that excluding same-sex couples from marriage is justified because a family headed by a married different-sex couple is supposedly the “optimal” setting for raising children.

The second main point of Lamb’s testimony is that, for a significant number of the children raised by gay and lesbian parents, their adjustment would be promoted were their parents able to get married. This thread in his testimony will presumably be used by the plaintiffs to help show both that denying the right to marry to same-sex couples harms not only gay and lesbian people but also the children they are raising. While that is not required for success on the arguments that Prop 8 violates same-sex couples’ equal protection rights and right to marry, it would go to underscore what the plaintiffs contend is the outright irrationality of the marriage exclusion.

Lamb testifies that children’s development is most affected by the quality of the relationships that they have with their parents or caregivers; the relationships between the people who are their caregivers; and factors dealing with the circumstances in which the children are raised, such as adequacy of economic resources and social and emotional supports. He testifies that the research shows that presence or absence of a father or of a mother in itself is not what’s important to children’s well-being, and he describes the evolution of his views and the science on this question.

Lamb testifies in some detail about the various kinds of studies of parenting by gay men and lesbians that have been conducted. Lamb also explains how the scientific evidence refutes numerous claims in an article by Ron Prentice, “21 Reasons Why Gender Matters,” one of the defense exhibits, which had been circulated for use in sermons. There is in short, he concludes, no reasonable basis for believing that keeping same-sex couples from marrying would improve the outcomes of any child.

Prop 8 proponents’ attorney David Thompson then cross-examines Dr. Lamb. Taking a by now familiar approach, Mr. Thompson questions the witness about the broad range of liberal organizations and causes he supports and Lamb’s personal support of marriage rights for same-sex couples. Thompson fails in an effort to get Lamb to agree that recent disputes about the scientific evidence for climate change show peer review to be an unreliable safeguard of scientific objectivity. Thompson makes the point, with Lamb’s agreement, that science has been wrong in the past, even as to broadly shared views, such as the previously believed pathology of “homosexuality.”

Lamb agrees that there are few studies about parenting by transgender or bisexual persons, allowing Thompson to suggest that professional organization positions condemning discrimination in parenting rights against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender persons have been shaped by non-scientific considerations. Thompson secures Lamb’s agreement as to numerous differences between men and women, presumably to suggest, for example, that limiting marriage to different-sex couples might be rational because, the longer lives of women might mean that minor children of gay male couples will on average be more likely to suffer the loss of a parent more often than would the minor children of different-sex couples.

Of course, any such argument would have to account then for the greater likelihood of parental loss for children of different-sex couples compared to children of lesbian couples – though presumably the defendants would then switch ground and point to something such as women’s lower earning power, another point Thompson raises with Lamb.

Lamb agrees with Thompson that men and in particular stepfathers molest children more often than women and in particular mothers. This might be offered by the defendants as evidence of a greater likelihood of harms from gay male parenting than different-sex parenting, though the plaintiffs would likely respond not only by arguing that gay men are no likelier to abuse children than straight men (as Lamb testifies in response to a question from the judge), but also that the very argument trades on the same sort of stereotypes about gay men that plaintiffs’ witnesses testified were played upon by the Yes on 8 campaign.

Thompson tries to attribute various beliefs about gender and parenting, particularly what Thompson calls “father absence,” to Lamb, but Lamb points out, for example, that in some cases he had only been describing another author’s position and in other cases early findings (sometimes written when Lamb was a student) were not borne out by later research. (Thompson takes the opportunity to reiterate his point about science being wrong, This plays into the Prop 8 proponents’ post-trial brief’s argument that the court should defer to Prop 8 in part because the science about parenting should be viewed as uncertain.)

Over the plaintiffs’ attorney’s objections, Judge Walker allows Mr. Thompson to enter a long series of articles about marriage and heterosexual parenting into evidence; Dr. Lamb repeatedly stresses the limits of those studies, which didn’t look at same-sex parenting and which showed correlations but not causation. There’s some back and forth where Thompson did not appear to appreciate the nature and superiority of a total population study, such as one based on the Census, compared to a sample-based survey.

Later Thompson confuses a literature review, a type of summary, with a meta-analysis, which actually combines the result of various studies. He continues to emphasize the ostensible newness of some of the research, consistent with the defense theme that Prop 8 should be accepted because the jury’s still out on parenting by same-sex couples. He also obtains Lamb’s agreement as to some limitations of various studies on parenting by gay men. At least one of the articles Thompson mentions that argues that we don’t know enough about same-sex parenting was published in a pay-to-publish journal, not usually considered scientific, Lamb notes

Thompson throughout the cross sometimes seems to abandon lines of cross-examination that aren’t producing answers that would help the defense. He goes quickly through a very long string of articles about same-sex parenting, establishing that in these articles they were compared to different-sex parents but not necessarily only to married biological parents. Finally, he closes cross-examination of Lamb by eliciting the conclusion that in the aggregate, children raised by same-sex couples look on certain dimensions like children raised by different-sex parents even though the same-sex couples were not married; this presumably will be used to argue that the lack of access to marriage for same-sex couples does not harm children.

On redirect, Mr. McGill gets Dr. Lamb to emphasize that almost all the studies on “fatherless families” are not studying children raised by lesbian couples; to clarify misrepresentations and other problems McGill perceived in a book by defendants’ expert David Blankenhorn; to articulate the problems with certain studies touted by the Prop 8 proponents; and to state explicitly that his opinions in his testimony were not influenced by any group of which he’s a member or indeed anything other than the social science research in Lamb’s field.

Over defense counsel’s objection, plaintiffs’ attorney Danny Chou from the San Francisco City Attorney's Office then examines Helen Zia, a writer, editor, Californian, Asian American, organizer and activist, and lesbian. After recounting anti-lesbian pressure she experienced from friends and colleagues of color, discrimination and ostracization in professional and personal contexts, and the frequent need she feels to be on guard against potential violence, Ms. Zia describes some of the malevolence she faced while campaigning against Prop 8 and her reactions to pro-Prop 8 messaging about bestiality, child molestation, and the destruction of the human race.

Judge Walker defers an objection by the defense to admitting one document, a page from a web site, which Walker subsequently does admit despite the objection.) Zia then testifies about her relationship with and feelings about her wife, with whom she had previously entered into a domestic partnership in California; about her marriage in 2004, the wedding celebration she and her wife held after it, and how devastated they were when that marriage was invalidated; and their second marriage in June of 2008, as soon as it became lawful. She also testifies about how being married has changed their relationships with their families and how they relate to people generally, making their relationship more comprehensible and accepted.

On cross-examination, defendants’ attorney Brian Raum secures Ms. Zia’s acknowledgment of her membership in and support of various LGBT rights organizations; one political motivation she had for marrying her wife; and statements Zia had made about the transformative effect of her 2004 wedding party even though her civil marriage had been invalidated prior to it. On redirect Mr. Chou invites Ms. Zia to finish the explanation Mr. Raum cut off – that it was the experience of being civilly married for months before the 2004 marriages were invalidated that was transformative for her, her wife, and their families.

~David B. Cruz, J.D., University of Southern California, Gould School of Law

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An expert on constitutional law and sex, gender, and sexual orientation law, Professor Cruz has been interviewed by a wide range of print, radio, and television media, including CNN Headline News, The News Hour, The Wall Street Journal, This American Life, and NPR's Morning Edition. Before joining the law faculty at the USC in 1996, he was a Bristow Fellow in the Office of the Solicitor General in Washington, D.C. and clerked for The Honorable Edward R. Becker, Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. Cruz is admitted to the bars of the State of New York and the United States Supreme Court.

Professor Cruz graduated with a B.S. in Mathematics, summa cum laude, and a B.A. in Drama, summa cum laude, from the University of California, Irvine and earned his master's degree in Mathematics from Stanford University. He was first in his J.D. class at graduation from New York University School of Law, where he was Managing Editor of the New York University Law Review.

Professor Cruz's academic publications include Heterosexual Reproductive Imperatives, 56 EMORY LAW JOURNAL 1157 (2007); "Naim v. Naim," "Bowers v. Hardwick," and "Hurley v. Irish-American Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual Group of Boston" (Encyclopedia of American Civil Liberties, 2006); Disestablishing Sex and Gender, 90 CALIFORNIA LAW REVIEW 997 (2002); and "Just Don't Call It Marriage": The First Amendment and Marriage as an Expressive Resource, 74 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA LAW REVIEW 925 (1999).

Dr. Linda Hirshman

A big theme of the trial so far has been the argument that gay marriage hurts children. As we saw on Day three, the plaintiffs see the save the children move as an argument that homosexuals are a threat to children regardless of whether they marry or not. Today, Day Five, Cambridge University Psychology Professor Michael Lamb testifies for the plaintiffs that the children raised by same sex couples are just as well adjusted as the children of heterosexual couples and that these well-adjusted children would be even better off were their parents allowed to marry.

Defendants’ cross-examination of Professor Lamb gives us a potent look at the real politics of the gay marriage opposition. The defendants aren’t just after gay marriage; they are after any family other than married, biological parents. The revelation comes from Defendant’s lawyer David Thompson, who has emerged as the most explicitly ideological of the defense team (he opens his cross of Lamb by forcing the professor to admit that he had given money to PBS and the ACLU). Attempting to undercut Lamb’s reliance on studies of the well-being of the children of gay and lesbian couples, Thompson painstakingly asks Lamb again and again whether his studies compared the children of gay families to the children of married, biological heterosexual families. Again and again, Lamb answers that the control group probably included children being raised in heterosexual adoptive families or even in heterosexual single parent or cohabiting families, as most studies do not limit themselves to married biological parents. After the umpteenth identical question, the judge begins to show some impatience and Thompson responds:

MR. THOMPSON: Well, the only point, your Honor, is that Dr. Lamb likes to talk about this rich, deep literature. And we want to show that he doesn't have any studies that are married biological parents, which is our core position in this case, that that's the optimum environment for raising children.

Although the judge reprimands Thompson for making an ideological argument in a formal trial, and Thompson apologizes, this exchange misses the point. The gay marriage opponents are clear that all of the forces that have opened up the family to arrangements other than heterosexual, lifelong, biological, reproductive unions are similarly dangerous to marriage. This theme will surface again on Day 11 when Defendant’s witness David Blankenhorn looks out at the spectators and lawyers and says that heterosexuals, with their divorcing, libertine, adopting ways are chiefly responsible for the decline in marriage. This argument supports defendants’ legal argument that they are not motivated by hatred of gay people, although it opens them up to the political attack that they are trying to push American society back to some long ago time when birth control was illegal and divorce almost impossible to obtain.

As part of his affirmative testimony, Lamb takes on some of the cherished myths of homosexual parenting and tells the court that no scientific studies have shown greater incidence of gender identity disorder or child abuse. He takes a swipe at Defendants’ forthcoming witness by testifying that Blankenhorn is the only person in the field who argues that children need a parent of both genders in order to have a good upbringing, revealing that the role model literature of earlier decades did not hold up under further examination.

As is so often the case, the cross examination is much more interesting than the direct. All the traditional organizations of psychological experts, “Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychoanalytic Association, the American Psychological Association, which we just discussed, the Child Welfare League of America, the National Association of Social Workers, and the North American Council on Adoptable children” agree that, as Lamb said, “children who are raised by gay and lesbian parents are just as likely to be well-adjusted as children raised by heterosexual parents.” Faced with this array of conventional expertise, the defendants elect to challenge the authority of science. First Thompson tries to get Lamb to admit that when governments fund science, they are pursuing an agenda set by politics rather than science. That elicits quite an indignant defense of the NIH:

LAMB: In fact, certainly in this country, agencies like the National Science Foundation and the National Institutes of Health pride themselves on having peer reviewers evaluate the scientific quality and integrity and importance of the research, and I think they would vociferously object to the implication that it is a government ideological identification of the importance of a problem that determines what gets funded.

Having failed to establish that all government funded science is corrupt, Thompson then essays that science not authoritative anyway, because its methodology sometimes turns up evidence that causes scientists to revise their earlier theories. After all, Thompson asserts, scientists changed their mind about phrenology (the belief that a person’s character can be deduced from the shape of their skull) as well as the somewhat more widely accepted beliefs in Freud’s theories of psychoanalysis. He responds by explaining that the scientific method includes by definition the possibility of re-examining and even falsifying earlier findings:

LAMB: Science, as I understand it, is a cumulative process, in which many individuals conduct many studies, asking lots of related and unrelated studies. And in that vast body of literature, you will certainly find cases where a finding is not replicated by other researchers... And that's why it's important to view it as a cumulative process, one where you look at the big picture and the way in which multiple studies give insight into the conclusions that you want to reach.

Exchanges like this leave open the question of where defendants would find a belief system not subject to falsifiability to look for their information about the world.

The day ends with Plaintiffs’ witness, author Helen Zia, testifying about her experience as a lesbian who wanted to marry. Although her story was very engaging, it’s not clear what she adds to the testimony of the actual plaintiffs about their anecdotal experience with Prop 8 or why, of the entire universe of gay and lesbian people in California, she was selected to tell her story here.

~Dr. Linda Hirshman, Author and retired Professor of Political Philosophy

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Dr. Hirshman specializes in social movements. She has written extensively about the feminist movement, including two controversial books, Hard Bargains: The Politics of Sex (Oxford 1994) and Get to Work: A Manifesto for Women of the World (Viking/Penguin 2006), as well as commentary in The New York Times and The Washington Post. She is at work now on a book about the gay revolution, Victory! to be published by Harper/Collins in 2011. She earned a J.D. from the University of Chicago Law School and a Ph.D. in Philosophy from University of Illinois at Chicago. She covers marriage equality at Salon.com and The Daily Beast.

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