Day 10: Chapters 1-5 (January 25, 2010)
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Expertise, Interpretation & Exhibits: Day 10
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Professor David B. Cruz
The day begins with plaintiffs’ attorney Ted Boutrous discussing with Judge Walker the prospect that the defendants would call
Frank Schubert, whose firm managed the Yes on 8 campaign and who repeatedly did not answer questions about various documents during
his deposition. Ultimately, the judge decides to wait to see what documents the plaintiffs admit into evidence and whether or not
Mr. Schubert testifies before making any ruling.
After further, lengthy procedural wrangling about evidence, Prop 8 proponents’ attorney David Thompson conducts the direct examination of their witness Kenneth P. Miller, a tenured Associate Professor of Government at Claremont McKenna College offered as an expert in U.S. politics and California politics. After discussing Dr. Miller’s education, which includes a law degree from Harvard and a Ph.D. in political science from UC Berkeley, Mr. Thompson elicits a range of research and teaching that Miller does.
Miller’s teaching includes material pertaining to California politics in general, to issues around Prop 8 and marriage for same-sex couples in particular, and to the political power of various minority groups. His research has primarily concentrated on voter initiatives and other mechanisms of what is termed “direct democracy,” which he has come to be less suspicious of and more concerned about conflicts between voters and courts. He has addressed Prop 8 in his 2009 book Direct Democracy in the Courts published by Cambridge University Press and in an article in a French journal on U.S. politics.
Plaintiffs’ attorney David Boies questions whether Miller has sufficient expert qualifications to opine about the political power of gay men and lesbians and so examines him on this point. Miller, he shows, has only written one article on the subject in a peer-reviewed journal [such journals only publish submitted articles after review by other authorities in the field, providing some assurance of the quality of the work], although Miller’s book addresses the subject and was peer-reviewed.
Miller claims to be an expert in anti-lesbigay discrimination from the 1970s onward. Boies gets Miller to acknowledge numerous gaps in his knowledge of gay political organizations and gay and lesbian politicians. Judge Walker accepts Miller only as an expert on California and U.S. politics allowed to talk about gay and lesbian political power.
Prof. Miller lists a number of factors that contribute to political power. He testifies that the $43 million dollars raised to fight Prop 8 reflect the exercise of political power by gay men and lesbians. He also testifies in some detail that the Democratic Party, elected officials at all levels, organized labor, corporations, newspapers (which editorialized against Prop 8), celebrities, some churches and faith-based organizations, and professional associations including doctors’ and lawyers’ groups are all allies of gay men and lesbians particularly in California, increasing the political power of the minority group they are.
He testifies that California is a more secular, less religious state than most of the U.S. Miller goes on after lunch to testify that the power of one’s ideas to persuade others can influence political power, as he suggests occurred with African Americans and the civil rights movement.
In addition to talking about factors that influence the political power a group might wield, Miller testifies about things he interprets as evidence of the political power of gay men and lesbians. As far as California is concerned:
- most of the politicians endorsed by EQCA are elected;
- the California legislature has over a number of years passed numerous bills advancing the interests of gay men and lesbians;
- local governments passed domestic partnership laws starting in the 1980s;
- aside from Prop 8 and the somewhat similar Prop 22 in the year 2000 the initiative process has not been used to undo the various legislative victories; and
- the Briggs Initiative (to bar gay and lesbian people from teaching) and various anti-HIV/-AIDS measures were rejected by voters.
- 30 states and Congress have passed hate crimes legislation covering sexual orientation-based crimes; and
- a number of state and local governments have anti-discrimination laws covering certain fields.
Mr. Boies objected to most of this testimony because Miller did not know it at the time of his deposition, calling into question Miller’s expert-ness; Walker allows the testimony, with Boies to take up the issues on cross-examination. Miller testifies that Congress, the President, and the public increasingly support priorities of the LGBT community. His ultimate conclusion is that gays and lesbians have the ability to attract the attention of California and national lawmakers.
David Boies then begins cross-examination of Dr. Miller. Miller agrees that all of the “allies” of gays and lesbians also support civil rights for African Americans, other racial minorities, and women; presumably Boies asks this to make the point that this kind of “political power” does not make a group eligible for heightened judicial protection against discrimination.
Mr. Boies asks Miller questions underscoring the extent of information about the legal situation of gay and lesbian people in the U.S. that Miller lacked at his deposition, and asks Miller to indicate which sources he relied on for his report were provided to him by the attorneys for the Prop 8 proponents, all presumably to call into question the weight to be given to Miller’s ostensibly expert opinions.
~David B. Cruz, J.D., University of Southern California, Gould School of Law
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An expert on constitutional law and sex, gender, and sexual orientation law, Professor Cruz has been interviewed by a wide range of print, radio, and television media, including CNN Headline News, The News Hour, The Wall Street Journal, This American Life, and NPR's Morning Edition. Before joining the law faculty at the USC in 1996, he was a Bristow Fellow in the Office of the Solicitor General in Washington, D.C. and clerked for The Honorable Edward R. Becker, Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. Cruz is admitted to the bars of the State of New York and the United States Supreme Court.
Professor Cruz graduated with a B.S. in Mathematics, summa cum laude, and a B.A. in Drama, summa cum laude, from the University of California, Irvine and earned his master's degree in Mathematics from Stanford University. He was first in his J.D. class at graduation from New York University School of Law, where he was Managing Editor of the New York University Law Review.
Professor Cruz's academic publications include Heterosexual Reproductive Imperatives, 56 EMORY LAW JOURNAL 1157 (2007); "Naim v. Naim," "Bowers v. Hardwick," and "Hurley v. Irish-American Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual Group of Boston" (Encyclopedia of American Civil Liberties, 2006); Disestablishing Sex and Gender, 90 CALIFORNIA LAW REVIEW 997 (2002); and "Just Don't Call It Marriage": The First Amendment and Marriage as an Expressive Resource, 74 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA LAW REVIEW 925 (1999).
Dr. Linda Hirshman
Day 10 opens with a very long argument about the admission of evidence. The whole trial has taken place against the backdrop of a
dispute over how much plaintiffs could discover about defendants’ campaign strategy for pass Prop 8. Plaintiffs are particularly
interested in the documentation of the role of conservative political strategist Frank Schubert and his firm, who heavily managed
the ProtectMarriage campaign. The defendants got the Court of Appeals to intervene in the middle of the proceedings to stop the
trial judge from opening up the files of their communications with their partners in the campaign and their internal communications.
Then a larger group of the Court, called “en banc,” seemed to be considering reviewing the panel opinion en banc, and the panel modified its opinion to allow discovery of more of the disputed material. The judge wisely assigned a magistrate to preside over the collateral discovery disputes which continued throughout the trial, and the first hour or so of the trial today reflects a rare eruption of the dispute into the trial itself.
The judge has been, on the whole, pretty permissive about the admissibility of evidence, as you will see, but we won’t know the full effect of the magistrate’s administration of this part of the case until we get to the parties’ closing briefs and arguments, which are still forthcoming. The real agenda here is that plaintiffs must be hoping to catch defendants in one of those lipstick-on –this-pig emails, revealing a hateful homophobia, as the Supreme Court has previously ruled that legislation cannot be defendant if it is merely the expression of hatred or animus toward the target group.
Defendants, who had withdrawn most of their witnesses from testifying, present the first of their two remaining witnesses, Claremont-McKenna political science professor Kenneth Miller. Miller specializes in state and local government and has specifically taught classes on the political and legal issues raised by the battle over gay marriage in California. He also teaches about the role of minorities in American history and, most to the point, he has been thinking about initiatives, like Prop 8, and the judiciary, like the court he is sitting in, since he wrote his PhD dissertation.
Miller testifies that gays and lesbians are powerful in the American political system. Although they lost the Prop 8 fight, they raised a boatload of money, they gained the alliance of the Democratic party, organized labor, corporations, newspapers, celebrities and even--surprise--churches. Statewide officials, including Repubican Governor Schwarzenegger and many executives and legislators, local, state and federal, express support for gays and lesbians’ interests.
Specifically on Prop 8, Miller recites the unions, newspapers, corporations, high tech companies, liberal churches, professional associations, and the like who opposed Prop 8. Candidates gays endorse often win elections, he continues, and the legislature has handed gays and lesbians a virtual basket of victories: “employment, housing, public education, and labor organizations, adoption, foster care, public contracting, insurance, state-funded programs and business services. . . in a series of different victories leading up to the broad domestic partner protections that we have in California today.” Miller specifically rejects the testimony of Plaintiffs’ witness Gary Segura that gays and lesbians lack political power, even at the national level, citing the “increased” support in Congress for various gay legislative initiatives, including efforts to repeal "Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell" policy. “To put it in general terms, I would say that the public has demonstrated increasing support for political objectives of LGBT persons.”
Even in the dreaded initiative process, Miller continues, gays only lost in California when they tried to get married.
Since Miller is famous for his recent publication of a powerful criticism of courts reversing the outcomes of voter initiatives like Prop 8, you would expect to see him advising the court in which he sits to mind its p’s and q’s. This behavior, by an expert witness, is a little unusual, so it’s interesting to see how it plays out. The first glimpse occurs when his lawyer asks Miller what he thinks about a line of Supreme Court decisions on political power and the Equal protection clause:
- THOMPSON: What is your definition of political powerlessness?
- MILLER: So, this definition is drawn from the Supreme Court's decision in Cleburne, from 1985. And by that definition, political powerlessness indicates no ability to attract the attention of the lawmakers.
- THOMPSON: What is your definition of political powerlessness?
- MILLER: So, this definition is drawn from the Supreme Court's decision in Cleburne, from 1985. And by that definition, political powerlessness indicates no ability to attract the attention of the lawmakers.
- THOMPSON: What is your opinion about the appropriateness of the Supreme Court's use of that test?
- MILLER: Well, this was...
- David Boies begins to stand.
- JUDGE WALKER: Sustained.
- (Laughter in the courtoom.)
Oops.
Cross-examining, Plaintiff’s lawyer David Boies follows two lines to undercut Miller’s testimony. One, he presses Miller to admit that he did not know much of what he just said when he gave his deposition earlier. Boies strongly implies that Miller is no expert, but merely a funnel for material the defendants’ lawyers have fed him since he performed so badly during deposition. Second, Boies confronts Miller with examples of gay and lesbian powerlessness – no statewide officials, the federal Defense of Marriage Act, Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and finally forces Miller to admit that he can’t say whether gays and lesbians are more or less powerful than African-Americans, who are, of course, unassailably the beneficiaries of the Equal Protection Clause.
Boies returns to Miller’s opinion of the referendum process by confronting him with his own writing criticizing it: "In sum, it is ironic that initiatives have the reputation of being a more pure form of democracy when the process undermines democratic opportunities and violates procedural guarantees observed by almost every freely elected legislature in the world." Boies is pressing Miller to admit that Prop 8 discriminates against gays and lesbians when the judge calls it a day.
~Dr. Linda Hirshman, Author and retired Professor of Political Philosophy
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Dr. Hirshman specializes in social movements. She has written extensively about the feminist movement, including two controversial books, Hard Bargains: The Politics of Sex (Oxford 1994) and Get to Work: A Manifesto for Women of the World (Viking/Penguin 2006), as well as commentary in The New York Times and The Washington Post. She is at work now on a book about the gay revolution, Victory! to be published by Harper/Collins in 2011. She earned a J.D. from the University of Chicago Law School and a Ph.D. in Philosophy from University of Illinois at Chicago. She covers marriage equality at Salon.com and The Daily Beast.
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